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| |q=Why does this article say that the Nazis were right-wing? | |
| |a=Because that is the consensus of [[Wikipedia:Reliable sources|reliable sources]], in this case historians and political scientists.}} | |
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| |q=But the word "socialist" is right in their name! | |
| |a=Many political entities have names that can be misleading. Consider, for example, the [[Holy Roman Empire]] (a confederation of mainly German territories during the Middle Ages and the early modern period) and North Korea's official name, the Democratic People's Republic of Korea (a totalitarian dictatorship). The [[Socialism#Etymology|usage of the word]] "socialism" by the Nazis is different from the common usage of the term "socialism" to refer to an economic philosophy involving advocacy for social ownership of the means of production. The phrase "national socialist" was a nationalist response to the rise of socialism in Europe by offering a redefinition of "socialism" to refer to the promotion of the interests of the nation, as opposed to ideas of individual self-interest. But there was no policy of social ownership of the means of production. The Nazis did talk about capitalism being bad, but they defined it as a Jewish-originated economic philosophy based on individualism that promoted plutocracy in the interest of the Jews, at the expense of non-Jewish nations and races. This was put in contrast to the Nazis' conception of socialism, which was done in order to win over people attracted to anti-capitalist and socialist ideas to their cause. They rejected ideas of equality and working class solidarity, instead advocating for social hierarchy and national strength. [https://www.washingtonpost.com/poli...ahistorical-claim-that-nazis-were-socialists/ This article] sums it up well.}} | |
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| |q=I made an offhand comment about it and somebody just came along and deleted it! What should I do? | |
| |a=Nothing. See [[Talk:Nazism/Archive 29#RfC: Has the question of whether the Nazis were part of the political left been sufficiently discussed here?|this discussion]] where the community came to a consensus that we have entertained the numerous questions and claims about the Nazis being left-wing enough, and that continued engagement with people pushing this line of reasoning is not helpful to the article.}} | |
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| |q=That doesn't seem very fair. Don't Wikipedia policies require editors to assume good faith? What if somebody posts that position here with a ''really'' good argument? | |
| |a= See the following links, all of which are to discussions about this very question over time. If any novel argument is proposed, it has already been made, responded to and failed to convince anyone. [https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Talk:Nazism/Archive_28#Semi-protected_edit_request_on_20_October_2017], [https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Talk:Nazism/Archive_28#False_narrative.], [https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Talk:Nazism/Archive_28#Far-right], [https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Talk:Nazism/Archive_28#Nazism_is_left_wing.2C_not_right_wing.], [https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Talk:Nazism/Archive_28#Semi-protected_edit_request_on_27_July_2017], [https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Talk:Nazism/Archive_27#Right_wing.3F], [https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Talk:Nazism/Archive_26#Socialism_and_far_right_organisations.], [https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Talk:Nazism/Archive_26#Right_Wing.3F], [https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Talk:Nazism/Archive_23#Nazism_-_Was_it_left_or_right.3F], [https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Talk:...rd_to_cover_controversy.3F_.22far-right.3F.22], [https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Talk:...a_type_of_Socialism.2C_according_to_wikipedia.], [https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Talk:...cialist_plan_is_a_plan_to_implement_socialism], [https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Talk:Nazism/Archive_16#Nazism_is_a_genuine_socialist_movement], [https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Talk:Nazism/Archive_16#Socialism_and_National_Socialism], [https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Talk:...ither.3F_who_owned_the_means_of_production.3F], [https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Talk:Nazism/Archive_15#My_Take_On_The_Issue_Of_Left.2FRight], [https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Talk:..._was_a_far_right_form_of_politics..22_-_FALSE], [https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Talk:Nazism/Archive_14#Naziism_as_.27far_right.27], [https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Talk:Nazism/Archive_14#.22Far-right.22], [https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Talk:Nazism/Archive_14#Nazism_v._Capitalism], [https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Talk:...actice.2C_is_a_form_of_far_right_politics..22], [https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Talk:...actice.2C_is_a_form_of_far_right_politics..22], [https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Talk:...Y_LINKED_TO_RIGHT-WING_POLITICS_NEEDS_EDITING], [https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Talk:...right_wing_conservatism_in_National_Socialism], [https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Talk:Nazism/Archive_9#Conservative_or_Socialist], [https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Talk:Nazism/Archive_5#So-called_.22anti-capitalism.22_of_Nazis], [https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Talk:Nazism/Archive_4#Why_are_they_the_National_SOCIALIST_party.3F], [https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Talk:Nazism/Archive_1#Is_national_socialism_socialism.3F]}} | |
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| |q=But what if I find a large number of very reliable sources all claiming that Nazism is left-wing? | |
| |a=Then you will be more than welcome to show them to us, so that we can see that they are very reliable and that they assert that Nazism is a left-wing ideology. If they are, then we will change the article.}} |
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