Anthem: Reply
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| :::::::::I'm not in anyway against the usage of de facto, however, I would point out a long standing convention and stable version on [[Scotland]] which referred to a national motto of Scotland. This was found to be factually incorrect, with no sources confirming an official motto of Scotland. It could have been argued that ''Nemo me impune lacessit'' or ''In Defens'' were de facto mottos of Scotland, however, they were not referred to as such as there was no evidence of them being either officially or legally recognised as such, hence it was removed. So, it may penetrate to the same outcome here, the recognition of no official national anthem, but rather, an unofficial one. Whether you want to refer to that as de facto on the basis on commonly accepted Wikipedia language, fine, but it does not excuse the fact that there is no agreed, official or legal national anthem of Wales, and I think the article should perhaps be a little more clearer on that. [[User:Goodreg3|<span style="background-color: blue; color: white">Goodreg3</span>]] ([[User talk:Goodreg3|talk]]) 23:12, 27 April 2024 (UTC) | :::::::::I'm not in anyway against the usage of de facto, however, I would point out a long standing convention and stable version on [[Scotland]] which referred to a national motto of Scotland. This was found to be factually incorrect, with no sources confirming an official motto of Scotland. It could have been argued that ''Nemo me impune lacessit'' or ''In Defens'' were de facto mottos of Scotland, however, they were not referred to as such as there was no evidence of them being either officially or legally recognised as such, hence it was removed. So, it may penetrate to the same outcome here, the recognition of no official national anthem, but rather, an unofficial one. Whether you want to refer to that as de facto on the basis on commonly accepted Wikipedia language, fine, but it does not excuse the fact that there is no agreed, official or legal national anthem of Wales, and I think the article should perhaps be a little more clearer on that. [[User:Goodreg3|<span style="background-color: blue; color: white">Goodreg3</span>]] ([[User talk:Goodreg3|talk]]) 23:12, 27 April 2024 (UTC) |
| ::::::::::Let me repeat a point to which you have not responded. Many things exist by custom that have been established over time. It would be nonsensical to say that English is an unofficial language, although technically it has never been made official. The word to describe that situation is de''Italic text''facto and that is more than sufficient. -----[[User:Snowded|<b style="color: #801818; font-family: Papyrus;">Snowded</b>]] <sup>[[User talk:Snowded#top|<small style="color: #708090; font-family: Baskerville;">TALK</small>]]</sup> 07:07, 28 April 2024 (UTC) | ::::::::::Let me repeat a point to which you have not responded. Many things exist by custom that have been established over time. It would be nonsensical to say that English is an unofficial language, although technically it has never been made official. The word to describe that situation is de''Italic text''facto and that is more than sufficient. -----[[User:Snowded|<b style="color: #801818; font-family: Papyrus;">Snowded</b>]] <sup>[[User talk:Snowded#top|<small style="color: #708090; font-family: Baskerville;">TALK</small>]]</sup> 07:07, 28 April 2024 (UTC) |
::::::::::Other pages do not create precedents for this page. De facto is perfectly good. None is wrong. Scotland is not Wales and it is a different situation. [[User:Sirfurboy|Sirfurboy ]] ([[User talk:Sirfurboy|talk]]) 07:53, 28 April 2024 (UTC) |
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